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They stay anyway

From Robert Whitcomb’s “Digital Diary,’’ in GoLocal24.com

“Many are saying that remote working is making people reprioritize where they choose to live and work. It’s too early to say if we’re seeing a trend of people flocking to Rhode Island because it’s less expensive, more rural, has great amenities or a combination of all three, but it’s definitely something we’re studying.  Rhode Island has always been a well-kept secret in terms of value, now perhaps, it’s not as much of a secret anymore.’’

-- Shannon Buss, president of the Rhode Island Association of Realtors, in GoLocalProv.com on people moving to Rhode Island since the pandemic began.

 

Hit this link:

https://www.golocalprov.com/business/ri-home-prices-explode-in-second-quarter-east-side-median-price-hits-682k-b

  

I have always thought that the assertions that Rhode Island state and local government retirees flee in large numbers to lower-tax states were grossly exaggerated. People decide to move to, or stay in, places for many reasons, such as job options and weather, but most importantly because of their family and friends connections, and those are tight in  the old and compact Ocean State. Now, The Boston Globe reports, Watchdog RI, a nonprofit founded by former Moderate and Republican Party candidate gubernatorial candidate Ken Block, who has often complained about public pensions and other things about this liberal state, has found that of 31,762 retired state and municipal retirees studied by the group, 80.3 percent retired in Rhode Island.

Mr. Block, a wizard at numbers, told the paper that he had expected twice as many of these public-sector retirees to be living out of state. “Certainly, the myth is that a lot of government employees retire and get out of Dodge,” he said. “That is clearly not the case.”

Even so, he told The Globe, $222 million in pension payments is being shipped out of state to these retirees each year, and he said, “That’s money that would be really nice to keep in state, if we could.” (It would be useful to get the numbers on what percentage of public-sector retirees leave other New England states.)

The list of the states where the largest numbers  of the aforementioned Rhode Island retirees move to, as reported by Watchdog RI, are:

·       Florida: 3,017

·       Massachusetts: 1,195

·       Connecticut: 237

·       New Hampshire: 226

·       South Carolina: 198

·       North Carolina: 167

·       Maine: 136

·       Arizona: 118

·       Texas: 88

·       Georgia, Virginia (tied): 84

Interestingly, two of those states are, by national standards, high-tax when you combine state and local taxes –  Connecticut and Maine; Massachusetts is in the middle, with New Hampshire a tad under the median. Generally, higher state and local taxes mean more, if not always better, public services, especially for  that high-voting cohort called old people. State-by-state tax-burden comparisons are difficult because state and local tax systems vary widely, especially when you consider business taxes and what sort of purchases are covered by sales taxes.

You’d expect Florida, with its warm winter weather and generally low taxes, to lead in grabbing emigres from other states. (I wonder if that will continue after the COVID crisis there.)

Hit this link to read The Globe story:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/08/10/metro/guess-where-most-government-employees-rhode-island-go-after-retiring/

Hit this link for some national tax comparisons:

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer/2416/

Hit this link for the Watchdog RI site:

http://watchdogri.org/

Besides their human connections, many retirees stay in Rhode Island because much of it is beautiful and there are lots of services within short distances. Not much driving required.